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Wednesday, January 12, 2011

Former Buckeye, ESPN Analyst, Kirk Herbstreit Shows No Love/Respect to OSU - College Football Final Standings - Division 3 Final Standings -

Espn's Kirk Herbstreit an OSU graduate seems to have become a Buckeye Hater like the rest of the mainstream media. I never have thought he was a big Jim Tressel fan, but he surely doesn't seem to give the Bucks any love for someone who is an alumni, let alone a former QB. Read the article and look at his final ballots and see what you think. Honestly, there is some justification for his ballot, but a former Buckeye. Come on Herby! You should know first hand that you don't want Buckeye Nation to turn on you. Just ask Mark May.
What do you all think? Comment please!

ESPN Analyst Produces World Wide Leading Head Scratcher Ballot
By Tony Gerdeman

Did Ohio State's win over Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl impress you? Well, if you're ESPN football analyst Kirk Herbstreit, the Buckeyes' 31-26 win over the BCS's eighth-ranked team was anything BUT impressive. In fact, it appears that Ohio State's sixth BCS bowl win was instead a rather paltry and piddling affair, an overall assault on the football senses, really.

What do I mean?

Before the Sugar Bowl, Herbstreit voted the Buckeyes sixth on his AP ballot. After the Sugar Bowl victory, he voted Ohio State ninth on his AP ballot.

He dropped Ohio State as many spots as he did the Razorbacks. If this was a math test, I'd need to see Herbstreit's work on how he came up with his answers—and don't leave out the remainders.

That must have been some terrible win for the Buckeyes. They probably shouldn't even be showing their faces around campus. A win over the eighth-ranked team in the nation? The second-best team from the first-best conference? Unimpressive.

But you know what IS impressive? Oklahoma's 48-20 win over Connecticut! How impressive? Well, Herbstreit moved the Sooners to seventh on his ballot—up SEVEN spots—for beating the Huskies in the Fiesta Bowl.

He had UConn ranked 20th going into that Fiesta Bowl, but who knows, maybe RIGHT BEFORE the game he had an epiphany and decided that the Huskies were actually a top-ten team. That's about the only answer I can think of for moving the Sooners all the way up to seventh for beating an 8-4 UConn team, especially when you again consider he dropped Ohio State three spots for beating his own eighth-ranked Razorbacks.

Not to be forgotten, but Michigan beat Connecticut by 20 points to start the season. Is that really the type of opponent that merits a victor moving up seven spots? Of course it isn't. Don't look for any sense to be made in this ballot. It doesn't exist.

You want some further puzzlement? Wisconsin dropped three spots on his ballot for losing the Rose Bowl, so I guess a Sugar Bowl win ranks right up there with a Rose Bowl loss?

Not quite.

Last year Florida moved up a spot on his ballot with their win over Cincinnati in the Sugar Bowl. The year before Utah moved up two spots with its win over Alabama. The year before that, Georgia moved up two spots for their monumental Sugar Bowl win over Hawaii.

But this year, a Sugar Bowl win merits dropping three spots according to Kirk Herbstreit. Interesting, isn't it?

Maybe he just didn't feel comfortable dropping the Badgers below the Buckeyes considering Wisconsin beat Ohio State this year. I can almost understand this line of thinking—although once you lose a second game, that argument goes out the window.

Besides, that thinking can't possibly be in play considering that Arkansas beat LSU this year, and LSU bypassed the Razorbacks and moved up FIVE spots from ninth to fourth for their thrilling 41-24 Cotton Bowl win over his 13th-ranked Texas A&M Aggies.

If Herbstreit was intent on keeping head-to-head results as a large factor in his ballot, then he would have kept LSU from leapfrogging Arkansas, but he didn't.

If he was so impressed by LSU's win, why would he drop A&M eleven spots on his final ballot? Either LSU made a huge jump because of a huge win, or they made a jump for beating a team that he now feels is the 24th-best team in the nation.

Or maybe he was just looking for a reason to move another SEC team to the top of the charts?

As I said before, don't look for logic here—it won't be found.

Voters' ballots have as much to do with opinion as they do with logic—as they should, so this really is no surprise. The disconnect, however, comes when a voter's opinion isn't influenced at all by logic, which seems to be the case on this particular ballot.

ESPN bills itself as The Worldwide Leader in Sports, and thus The Worldwide Leader in College Football. Since Herbstreit is their top college football analyst, that makes him the Worldwide Leader in College Football Analysis.

I don't see that type of analysis when I look at his ballot.

Following Ohio State's win at Minnesota on October 30th, Herbstreit moved the Buckeyes from tenth to eighth on his ballot. Since then they've played four teams—all bowl teams—and won all four. Somehow, they are now ninth on his ballot.

Let's not pretend that those four teams—Penn State, Iowa, Michigan and Arkansas—don't carry some legitimate weight with them. Florida went from unranked to 22nd on Herbstreit's ballot for beating Penn State whom he didn't have ranked prior to the game. Mississippi State moved from 22nd to 16th for beating Michigan, who was also unranked just like the Nittany Lions were, by the way.

But Ohio State beats the eighth-ranked team in the nation and they drop three spots?

Maybe they should have beaten Penn State or Michigan instead.

Oh wait, they already did.


Kirk Herbstreit's Final Regular Season AP Ballot is on the LEFT
Kirk Herbstreit's Final AP Ballot is on the RIGHT
1 Auburn 1 Auburn
2 Oregon 2 Oregon
3 Stanford 3 Stanford
5 Wisconsin 5 LSU
6 Ohio State 6 Alabama
7 Michigan State 7 Oklahoma
8 Arkansas 8 Wisconsin
9 LSU 9 Ohio State
10 Alabama 10 Boise State
11 Boise State 11 Arkansas
12 Virginia Tech 12 Oklahoma State
13 Texas A&M 13 Michigan State
14 Oklahoma 14 Nevada
15 Nebraska 15 Virginia Tech
16 Missouri 16 Mississippi State
17 Oklahoma State 17 Florida State
18 South Carolina 18 Nebraska
19 Nevada 19 South Carolina
20 Connecticut 20 UCF
21 West Virginia 21 Iowa
22 Mississippi State 22 Florida
23 Florida State 23 Missouri
24 UCF 24 Texas A&M
25 Maryland 25 Maryland

College Football Final Standings/Polls 

Associated Press Top 25
1 Auburn
3 Oregon
4 Stanford
5 Ohio State
6 Oklahoma
7 Wisconsin
9 Boise State
10 Alabama
11 Nevada
12 Arkansas
13 Oklahoma State
14 Michigan State
15 Mississippi State
16 Virginia Tech
17 Florida State
18 Missouri
19 Texas A&M
20 Nebraska
21 UCF
22 South Carolina
23 Maryland
24 Tulsa
25 North Carolina State

Coaches Poll
1 Auburn
3 Oregon
4 Stanford
5 Ohio State
6 Oklahoma
7 Boise State
8 Wisconsin
10 Oklahoma State
11 Alabama
12 Arkansas
13 Nevada
14 Michigan State
15 Virginia Tech
16 Florida State
17 Mississippi State
18 Missouri
19 Nebraska
20 UCF
21 Texas A&M
22 South Carolina
23 Utah
24 Maryland
25 North Carolina State

BCS Standings
1 Auburn
2 Oregon
4 Stanford
5 Wisconsin
6 Ohio State
7 Oklahoma
8 Arkansas
9 Michigan State
10 Boise State
11 LSU
12 Missouri
13 Virginia Tech
14 Oklahoma State
15 Nevada
16 Alabama
17 Texas A&M
18 Nebraska
19 Utah
20 South Carolina
21 Mississippi State
22 West Virginia
23 Florida State
24 Hawaii
25 UCF

1. Auburn
2. TCU
3. Oregon
4. Stanford
5. Ohio State
6. Wisconsin
7. Oklahoma
8. Boise State
9. LSU
10. Nevada
11. Alabama
12. Oklahoma State
13. Arkansas
14. Virginia Tech
15. Michigan State
16. Florida State
17. Nebraska
18. Missouri
19. Texas A&M
20. Mississippi State
21. North Carolina State
22. UCF
23. South Carolina
24. Miami (Ohio)
25. Northern Illinois

Division 3 Final Standings

AFCA Division III Coaches Poll
Record Pts Pvs
1. Wisconsin-Whitewater (40) 15-0 1,000 1
2. Mount Union (Ohio) 14-1 960 2
3. Wesley (Del.) 12-1 906 3
4. Mary Hardin-Baylor (Texas) 12-1 810 4
5. North Central (Ill.) 12-1 803 6
6. Bethel (Minn.) 12-2 797 14
7. St. Thomas (Minn.) 12-1 764 5
8. Trine (Ind.) 11-1 712 8
9. Ohio Northern 10-2 621 11
10. Linfield (Ore.) 9-2 610 12
11. Wartburg (Iowa) 10-1 521 10
12. Wheaton (Ill.) 10-2 508 16
13. Thomas More (Ky.) 11-1 453 9
14. Wittenberg (Ohio) 10-1 444 7
15. Coe (Iowa) 9-2 378 13
16. Delaware Valley 9-3 370 18
17. Cortland State (N.Y.) 10-2 360 17
18. Montclair State (N.J.) 10-2 326 20
19. Alfred (N.Y.) 10-3 305 0
20. California Lutheran 8-2 292 15
21. Franklin (Ind.) 9-2 264 19
22. Rowan (N.J.) 9-1 189 21
23. Pacific Lutheran (Wash.) 8-1 139 22
24. Hampden-Sydney (Va.) 9-2 117 25
25. Hardin-Simmons (Texas)


Blade2Edge said...


just BS said...

Amen to my feelings or what herbie did?